tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4200060786761508433.post4803776041372705560..comments2023-07-08T08:02:17.679-07:00Comments on Am Ghobsmacht!: Three Flags; a Real Compromise?Am Ghobsmachthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15333693607785579136noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4200060786761508433.post-71692878761683619982015-09-21T11:55:40.808-07:002015-09-21T11:55:40.808-07:00I think the 3 flag solution may be a runner actual...I think the 3 flag solution may be a runner actually. The posters above are right though, the tricolour is a non-starter due to being the sovereign symbol of the south. A new all-Ireland flag is therefore probably necessary too.<br /><br />I think this website has quite a politically realistic solution:<br /><a href="http://freshni.org" rel="nofollow">http://freshni.org</a><br /><a href="http://freshni.org/northernireland.html" rel="nofollow">Northern Ireland proposal</a><br /><a href="http://freshni.org/islandofireland.html" rel="nofollow">Island of Ireland proposal</a><br /><br />A new Northern Ireland flag that is new but still gives a nod to enough existing NI heritage to keep Unionists on-board, yet changed from an England look-alike to use St. Patrick's cross for Ireland (and no crown). Combined with a dominantly green all-Ireland flag that Irish Nationalists can fly and also be used in the rugby etc. Both connected to each other by the commonality of the St. Patrick's Cross.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4200060786761508433.post-32682059895342296932013-12-24T18:12:17.041-08:002013-12-24T18:12:17.041-08:00Thanks for your input Dr C, you're most welcom...Thanks for your input Dr C, you're most welcome here.Am Ghobsmachthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15333693607785579136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4200060786761508433.post-83120635821980074572013-12-20T14:08:52.593-08:002013-12-20T14:08:52.593-08:00I take your argument re two flags, AG, but rather ...I take your argument re two flags, AG, but rather than three the obvious path - as pointed out above - is no flag. Anyway, you can't eat one. I've tried.Jude Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02255073034338282041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4200060786761508433.post-58044258839092804372013-12-19T05:25:14.845-08:002013-12-19T05:25:14.845-08:00The mouse is attached.I hate using the keypad.I...The mouse is attached.I hate using the keypad.I've even downloaded a little programme which is supposed to freeze the keypad.I've googled for solutions but so far all the promises have come to nought.When I take my eye off the ball, the little bugger hops about spreading goobledegook across my text..paddykoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06108197257823059301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4200060786761508433.post-30341514885239057962013-12-18T12:56:03.870-08:002013-12-18T12:56:03.870-08:00Do you have a sensitive mouse on your computer?
A...Do you have a sensitive mouse on your computer?<br /><br />A friend of mine (a grammar enthusiast too oddly enough) has the same problem, his thumbs lazily glance against the mouse section of the keyboard and before you know it he's pasted have his text over the other half.<br /><br />Plug in a proper mouse and see if it's still happening.<br /><br />BTW, I welcome all corrections.<br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />AGAm Ghobsmachthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15333693607785579136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4200060786761508433.post-57892944427118013382013-12-14T09:12:50.367-08:002013-12-14T09:12:50.367-08:00No problem.It's just one of things a grammar s...No problem.It's just one of things a grammar school education sometimes infects the user with.It also turns the internet and elsewhere into an alphabet zoo of free-ranging apostrophes, and feral "where",,"were" and "wear".. "chose" and "choose"...a vast jungle of spelling mistakes and rampant grammar to catch the eye like brightly coloured birds. My biggest problem is that my keyboard has taken to jumping bits of text and pasting them all over everything I type.!!!!,If anyone can help in that respect I would be grateful.paddykoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06108197257823059301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4200060786761508433.post-4577857789624656862013-12-14T07:22:37.277-08:002013-12-14T07:22:37.277-08:00Yes I do, I've amended it, but all credit goes...Yes I do, I've amended it, but all credit goes to yourself (to be fair, I'm reading the Aeneid, Dido is stuck in my head...)Am Ghobsmachthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15333693607785579136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4200060786761508433.post-20353868890857825642013-12-14T07:16:06.098-08:002013-12-14T07:16:06.098-08:00At the risk of sounding like a pedant...you really...At the risk of sounding like a pedant...you really mean "ditto" and not "dido", don't you? <br />Flags of any stripe have been used in their tattered remnants as territorial markers like so many incontinent dogs' pissings, that they've been devalued long ago..The average nationalist housewife reading "Hello" magazine with it's royal/celebrity coverage would have more of a sense of "loyalty" to the monarchy than some of the more rabid shit-stirrers brutalising themselves on the streets, who want to be more british than the average Yorkshireman, currently prefers.<br />I wonder what the reaction would be if the queen or possibly Charles chirped up and laid out the truth of their supposed "loyalty" and the desecration of the british national flag. Super Nationalists could also be taken to task on this score but not to the same degree.<br />Here,,uninformed histories have been twisted into legends in much the same way that" facts" are written by the victors throughout the ages and all kingly and political power is essentially born out of theft and murder.Fairy tales are believed about King Billy as a child believes in the Coca Cola version of Santa Claus.<br />Flags should be an irrelevance to anyone who can, think, but in a land where someone who has no education of science can become a Health Minister while believing in Creationism.....never mind gods and demons, it is obvious that although some of us are in the 21st century, a lot of our neighbours still reside in a dangerous inner world of witches, ghosts,, fairies and whatnots of the imagination and are in thrall to murderous paranoia and pieces of cloth.Possibly many of them have never lived or visited either the south of Ireland or the cities of the U.K. except maybe at a football match. Many have probably never read a book before.<br />The rest of us have lived through lifetimes of grubby mental and physical violence from all sides, where we've had to witness killings on the streets by both the citizens and the forces of "law". We've heard the ravings and rantings of hillbilly demagogues .We've seen friends from across the community murdered by one side or the other and watched as sociopaths were integrated into both legal and illegal organisations and then decorated and feted by their followers. We've heard the firecracker bangs of real guns as" lawmen" killed a drowsy husband making his tipsy way home.... and smelt the marzipan and vanilla aroma of freshly bombed buildings in our towns .We've also seen the hypocrisy of religious leaders and followers who spoke hate from both sides of their mouths at the same time. <br />I think, no flags of any description should be flown in such a culturally un-integrated place .Put up flagpoles by all means but make it illegal to make , sell or buy any kind of flag until such times as everyone can understand their symbolism and value.They are currently used as psychological weapons.The can make the law stick with alcohol and tobacco. They should do the same with flagpaddykoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06108197257823059301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4200060786761508433.post-44527846686888570332013-12-14T06:54:05.160-08:002013-12-14T06:54:05.160-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.paddykoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06108197257823059301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4200060786761508433.post-66902270337837110772013-12-12T13:50:31.322-08:002013-12-12T13:50:31.322-08:00It'll be difficult FDM, no doubt about that.
...It'll be difficult FDM, no doubt about that.<br /><br />Haass does indeed have other stuff to attend to but there's no reason not to press ahead for a fleg.<br /><br />Certainly won't fix everything (probably trigger more protests) but it'll at least give us something to fly at sporting events other than the redundant flag that has been raped by Loyalism for decades.<br /><br />On the other hand, what will I blog about?!!!!Am Ghobsmachthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15333693607785579136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4200060786761508433.post-35082257689763488802013-12-11T23:04:05.040-08:002013-12-11T23:04:05.040-08:00No fleg at all is the most sensible solution, how ...No fleg at all is the most sensible solution, how can anyone be offended by naffinAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01860646879714867386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4200060786761508433.post-60241102688857271852013-12-11T05:39:32.773-08:002013-12-11T05:39:32.773-08:00AG,
I think the "new NI" fleg thing is ...AG,<br /><br />I think the "new NI" fleg thing is non-starter.<br /><br />Haass honestly has much more pressing matters to attend to.<br /><br />You can maybe see Haass's perspective though - "man from melting-pot identity country with one flag says why can't all you different people have one flag/fleg [delete as appropriate to your education] like 'old-glory' and get along like good chaps then?"<br /><br />It's kind of a no-brainer for him. However it just won't work here.<br /><br />I get it and accept it that people from the northern regions of Ireland can hold, have and express different identity concepts Irish/British/Norn Irish/all-or-one-whenever-it-suits. Tick. Get it. That is reality. However given that large spread of self-identifying concepts it is difficult to find a unifying identity to sling a flag over.<br /><br />Given that difficulty of throwing A flag over the body of the population, you are left with trying to throw it over the region/statelet/province [call it what you will]. However the latter is ALSO contested ground. Hence another roadblock.<br /><br />The more pressing issues need sorted first.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4200060786761508433.post-18538044324085380922013-12-06T21:11:46.999-08:002013-12-06T21:11:46.999-08:00I hear ya Boondock.
Though, I can't see how a...I hear ya Boondock.<br /><br />Though, I can't see how a tricolour won't fly from city hall some day.<br /><br />King Cnute knew he couldn't hold back the tide. <br />Unionism sees the tide coming in but won't do anything about it other than cry "no surrender" and end up startled when it receives a good soaking.<br /><br />If they had any foresight they could maybe grasp this idea as a way of breaking the fall.<br /><br />But, wishful thinking I suppose.<br /><br />Am Ghobsmachthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15333693607785579136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4200060786761508433.post-63753487431464958502013-12-05T02:59:36.294-08:002013-12-05T02:59:36.294-08:00Nice idea but never going to work. Firstly I will ...Nice idea but never going to work. Firstly I will be amazed if everyone was to agree on a new flag. The 3 flag option involves a Tricolour being flown which will never be agreed on by Unionism so that in my view leaves us with the option of no flags or each individual councils civic flag. The Belfast civic flag is better than any of the makey up suggestions I have seen for Northern Ireland over the last few days and talking of those designs I have seen in the various newspapers they either look nationalist, unionist, completely irrelevant or just downright awfull even the better options and one I like myself such as a red saltire on a green background will be divisive sure isnt green Irish but isnt that St Patricks cross a British symbol etc etc etcboondockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05933493951764147899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4200060786761508433.post-20573249804060958542013-11-30T15:20:04.641-08:002013-11-30T15:20:04.641-08:00Hello Kilsally!
I'm delighted that you're...Hello Kilsally!<br /><br />I'm delighted that you're reading one of my posts as I'd really appreciate your opinions on some of my Ulster-Scots/Scotch-Irish stuff, especially as we're both Mid-Ulster Scotophiles (aren't we?)<br /><br />Anyway, the point of this proposal is that it is an alternative to the TWO flag idea which is slowly but surely gaining traction.<br /><br />Any constitutional hurdles to jump will have to be jumped by that proposal first.<br /><br />If it is successful then it automatically paves the way for this proposal.<br /><br />BTW, with an NI & Union Flag idea, what's in it for nationalists and republicans? <br /><br />What do they stand to gain from that proposal?Am Ghobsmachthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15333693607785579136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4200060786761508433.post-73430688394485636792013-11-30T14:05:24.908-08:002013-11-30T14:05:24.908-08:00Cheers elly!Cheers elly!Am Ghobsmachthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15333693607785579136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4200060786761508433.post-61077479786226183232013-11-30T02:18:55.385-08:002013-11-30T02:18:55.385-08:00The problem being it ignores the constitutional po...The problem being it ignores the constitutional position of Northern Ireland as being part of the UK. The compromise is actually in my mind an agreed Northern Ireland flag flown everywhere & designated days for the Union Flag Kilsallyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12355423947535095842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4200060786761508433.post-48892233831229123302013-11-30T01:56:33.978-08:002013-11-30T01:56:33.978-08:00Thanks for this. At last someone is talking a bit ...Thanks for this. At last someone is talking a bit of sense! Personally I don't identify with any flag and i see this as a positive step in the right direction rather than all the marching on the spot which has been happening. My late dad used to say if you're not moving forward you must be standing still. We've stood still for too long time to really move on.ellybhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02164602321974777689noreply@blogger.com